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Statue of Churchill, Westerham Green

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Chartwell

26-Feb-09 • Sean O'Neill

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View from The Cearn

19-May-12 • Sean O'Neill

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Looking back down the Darent valley

13-Mar-16 • Sean O'Neill

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Quebec House garden and St Mary's Church

15-May-16 • Sean O'Neill

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Beeches near Oxted

Oxted Circular walk

19-Nov-16 • Saturdaywalker on Flickr

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Tenchley's Manor

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Oxted Circular walk

History

This is a list of previous times this walk has been done by the club (since Jan 2010). For more recent events (since April 2015), full details are shown.

Updated: Tue, 01-Dec-20

Date # Post
Sat, 19-Sep-20 15

Saturday Walk: Oxted Circular - UPDATED TRAIN TIMES

Main walk: 12.1 miles / 19.5 km
Longer walk with afternoon loop to Chartwell: 14.1 miles / 22.75 km

This walk explores the woodlands of the Greensand hills, with some fine views across the Weald.

Outward Trains
09:50 London Victoria, arrives at Oxted 10:31
Return Trains
xx:23/53 London Victoria

Lunch
Westerham is 5.5 miles into the walk and has many places to eat - two central pubs are the Kings Arms Hotel (01959-562990) and the Grasshopper on the Green (01959-562926). The George & Dragon appears to be shut.

Click here for full details and walk directions

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The bus service still appears to be running between Westerham and Bromley / Oxted.
I don’t know why I'm reporting. For one thing, I didn’t count anyone at the station, ( 15 )? For another, I accidentally did a different walk. While we waited for another train to arrive, we had a speech on how we should divide into sixes. We eventually set out in 'long walk' and 'short walk' groups. It would have been a keen observer that noticed the groups were indeed separate, as we threaded our way down a busy Station Road East. One walker hung back so as not to add to that impression. That walker had not realised that his printout pre dated a major re jig of the route and was soon in a group of one (would have happened anyway, let’s face it).
That walker went on his merry way, on a blissfully sunny day. Until, lo and behold, a longhorn bull stood on the footpath ahead. An impressive animal with big spiky horns (sadly my iphone has died and I can't retrieve the photo). Never daunted, our plucky walker said “hello“ to it. It sneezed and placidly walked past. It may possibly have been missing its gentleman’s bits. Anyway, it transformed from a raging beast into a little poppet.
About this time, I realised I was off piste and had to rely on Mr Google to get me through the dense forest that lay ahead. That and follow the road to Westerham
The way back was not without its challenges. I teamed up with two others not realising that their directions were different to mine! This may have resulted in some gibberish being spoken. Parts of the way back were the reverse of my morning, not that that helped much, my memory being what it is. There were one or two wrong turns and we nearly got hit by a golf ball (on the path). Coffee at Kiwis shut at four. So it was on to Oxted for us.

At least 2 of us did the extension via Chartwell, lingering in the grounds and cafe for over an hour. I realised that, while I've often been to the cafe, I had never previously had a proper look at the gardens. We got to Oxted at 5.45 and then had a decent meal at Cucina Italiana. They were booked up inside but found us seats outside. Thanks for scheduling this fine walk.
I sympathise with Mr Tiger on several counts, as I will explain. I agree the total numbers were roughly 15. In fact, as we left central Oxted we split into twos and threes, so I don't know how the day wokred out for others; however it dawned on me during the morning that I was also following an out of date route. But my companion had the up to date GPX, and after a lengthy discussion at one junction, we realised the situation and followed the "new" route; which we did successfully, even finding a reasonably effective way out of Crockhamhill Common which has always baffled me before. We had a sandwich at the churchyard in Westerham and didn't repair to the pub so I suspect we were ahead of the rest for the return leg. I was surprised that the final quarter of the walk is almost totally different from the "old" route, except for the visit to Peter Rabbit, so the line on my old map was pretty useless. However, I can see that the "new" route adds a couple of better viewpoints and avoids some sections which might be very muddy at other times.
Anyway, a final point to report is that we met a familiar face on the outskirts of Oxted, who had been on a slow journey from London Bridge and did the short walk starting at noon. She reported favourably on a pub in Limpsfield (can't remember the name) having been denied access to the Carpenters Arms without a booking. 1623 train for me.
Sorry not to be more informative; but thanks for posting a welcome return to this pleasant and accessible area.
I met Mr M Tiger plus 2 ladies using their google maps on my way to Westerham an hour later than the specified train due to engineering works on the line to Clapham Junction. They were following the walk backwards to Oxted having suspected that the original directions if 2 years had been completely re written. I had already lunched at the Carpenters Arms to make sure I got a table. Arriving at Westerham at 2..30pm I decided to have a leisurely look around and then caught the bus back to Bromley South rather than spend an exhausting afternoon in the direct sun trying not to get lost.
Sun, 10-Nov-19 30

Sunday Walk – Views from the Greensand Hills

Extra Walk 63b – Oxted Circular (short walk)
Length: 11½ km (7.2 miles). Toughness: 3/10

10:21 East Grinstead train from Victoria (Clapham Jct 10:28, East Croydon 10:39), arriving Oxted at 11:00. See below for a late start option.

Trains back from Oxted are at xx:29 & xx:59.

Volume 2 of the Time Out walks contained several short options to entice new walkers and there was a time when these got occasional SWC postings. However, tiddlers like the 9 km Hurst Green to Oxted walk (16a) have long since dropped off the radar. This Sunday's walk is essentially a slightly longer version of that neglected walk, a mix of open and wooded sections up and over the Greensand Hills.

You'll probably need to call ahead and book a table if you want a pub lunch at the Carpenters Arms in Limpsfield Chart. If they can't oblige it's not too much further back to Limpsfield and Oxted, where you'll find some other pubs and coffee shops for refreshment.

* Late Start Option: Take the train half an hour later and do the 'morning short cut' (that's §3 instead of §13, making a 10 km walk). You'll reach the lunch pub at the same time as the main group.

You'll need to bring the directions from the Oxted Circular walk page. Clicking the word 'Short' on the Walk Options line before printing will include both Short Walk options and save 5 or 6 sheets of paper. T=swc.63.b
About 30 altogether on a dry sunny slightly chilly day. Muddy underfoot in places but not too bad.
A pretty walk especially with the autumn colour. (Not wishing too much lavish praise to go to the walk author’s head, I pointed out a couple of minor ambiguities to him in no uncertain terms.)
The Carpenters couldn’t cater for such a large group so, after a quick half, about half the group pressed on to the Bull for a late lunch which they declared to be good. Best not to mention the wine. It too was said to be good but cost an unexpectedly pretty penny. Those who stayed on in the Carpenters turned up later, having no doubt drunk themselves silly before leaving. And so a short stretch back to Oxted where the group divided between the Wetherspoons and a Costas.

Sunday, 10 November 2019 at 20:24:00 GMT Delete
Forgot to mention there were favourable comments about Limpsfield's Coffee at Kiwi House.
Sat, 22-Sep-18 23

Saturday Walk: Oxted Circular

Main walk: 12.1 miles / 19.5 km
Longer walk with afternoon extension via Chartwell: 14.1 miles / 22.75 km

This walk explores the woodlands of the Greensand hills, with some fine views across the Weald.
Trains: Take the 10:07 Uckfield train from London Bridge (10:22 East Croydon), arriving at Oxted at 10:35.
Return trains are at xx20 to London Bridge, xx23/53 to London Victoria.
Lunch: Westerham is 5.5 miles into the walk and has many places to eat - three central pubs are the George & Dragon (01959-563071), the Kings Arms Hotel (01959-562990), the Grasshopper on the Green (01959-562926)
Tea: Pass through Oxted station to reach Café Papillon at 54 Station Road West, open til 5pm. Also on the same side and right next to the station is the Oxted Inn, a Wetherspoon's pub.
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Hi Bridie,
this walk looks interesting and I hope to attend. regarding Chartwell, will we have time to stop there or is it just a fleeting visit so to speak?
thanks
lily
Up to you, Lily. This is not the Ramblers. You are your own responsible adult, your own boss.
In the interest of avoiding confusion at the start please note that the route out of (and back into) Oxted was significantly changed in May. If you follow an old set of directions or GPS track you'll be on a different route for much of the day. That's not a huge problem, but it would be a pity if you dragged everyone else along and no one did the revised route as written.

Lily asked about visiting Chartwell. This walk doesn't really give you enough time for a full visit of the house and garden, since you won't get there before 3pm unless you have a very short lunch stop. There are no buses from Chartwell on a Saturday so you'll have another two hours walking back to Oxted afterwards (or an hour back to Westerham if you're prepared to take a bus from there). See the Walk Notes for more detailed transport information.
Also Chartwell house can get very busy so better to book ahead as they limit the visitors
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Is GPX track not updated?
The GPS track on the SWC site was updated in May. I was trying to prompt people who've downloaded it in the past to make sure they've got the latest version on their device.
Thanks, Sean.
Hi Guys hope to attend provided weather is not too wet and windy. Look forward to the updated version. Any takers for the the extension?

Regards

Monica
By the way, I think there is a bus running through the lunch place. Does anyone know the bus number and time table? Could be handy if heavy rain in the afternoon as the forecast appoints worse weather in PM
Full details of the buses from Westerham are in the walk directions under Transport. Click on the SWC.63 button at the top of the post.
From the past bus 246 goes to Bromley station or Orpington as I recall I think every 20 to 30 minutes. Hope this helps.

Monica
About 23 today. started cloudy then rainy getting heavy and persistent
As far as I know, all made it to Westerham, having lunch in several establishments. Quite a few in the George and Dragon, After lunch, a sizeable contingent opted for the bus to Oxted it were getting wet, weren’t it. But others, myself included, nobly pressed on, determined to earn their medal for the day.
I was behind the others and encountered navigational difficulties on Crockhamhill Common. I couldn’t work out the “fork left after the five way junction” and spent quite a bit of time trying to find either it or the Greensand Way it allegedly led to. However, with the persistence of a badger, and the cat like homing skills of a um..cat, I did eventually find my way back to Oxted.
1 got a slightly later train and decided to do the short circular, omitting Westerham and lunching at the bus shelter opposite the Carpenters Arms. Although it was raining heavily at this point, the afternoon stretch was as enjoyable as the morning with lovely views and atmospheric woods starting to show their autumn colours. A very enjoyable short excursion.
Wed, 27-Jun-18 7

Wednesday Walk - Oxted Circular

Length: 19.2 km (11.9 mi) [shorter or longer walk possible]
Ascent/Descent: 270m
Net Walking Time: ca. 4 ½ hours
Toughness: 5 out of 10
09.51 East Grinstead train from Victoria (CJ 09.58, EC 10.10), arrives Oxted 10.31, or the 10.07 Uckfield train from London Bridge (EC 10.22), arrives Oxted 10.35.
Return trains: plenty.

Much of this walk is on the wooded Greensand Ridge running parallel to and just south of the North Downs. At various points in the walk there are views across the valley to these downs, contrasting with far-reaching views out to the High Weald from the southern escarpment.
The outward route is across the National Trust's Limpsfield Common, the High Chart (some of which is part of the Titsey Estate) and Squerryes Park. This brings you to Westerham, described by Daniel Defoe as a “neat, handsome, well-built market town”. Memorials in the 14thC St Mary's Church and two statues on the Green honour its most famous residents, General James Wolfe and Sir Winston Churchill. Wolfe was born in the town and his childhood home, named Quebec House after his famous victory in 1759, is owned by the National Trust. The house is open; admission (2018) is £5.60.
The afternoon route starts with an attractive section up the open Darent valley and climbs onto the wooded Crockhamhill Common, from where an optional extension loops out to Churchill's family home Chartwell, also owned by the National Trust. The garden, restaurant and the house are open; admission is ÂŁ14.40 or ÂŁ7.20 for the garden only. The walk crosses over the outward route at Limpsfield Chart, continues through more parts of Limpsfield Common and returns to Oxted via the village of Limpsfield, which has retained many of its historic buildings.
Walk Options: See the webpage or the pdf for details.
Lunch: There are three large pubs to choose from in Westerham, about 9 km into the main walk variations. For details and other options see the webpage or the pdf.
Tea: Towards the end of the walk there is The Bull in Limpsfield and many more possible tea places in Oxted itself. see the webpage or the pdf for details.
For walk directions, summary, map, height profile, photos and gpx/kml files click here. T=swc.63
Well i had hoped to d this walk but I left my instructions behind at home Bestjfk

Yes i had hoped to do this walk but left my instructions behind at home .best jfk
hope you have a super day

just in case anyone is interested my Jazz choir are performing again this Saturday in a programme called Something like Summer.

This will take place at St Andrews Church
Fulham Fields ,
Greyhound Rd
W14 9SA
7.30 pm Tickets ÂŁ12 00 on the door

Thanks jfk
7 walkers on a hot sunny day, not counting one who showed up in Westerham and made fleeting appearances thereafter. Two pub lunchers looked no further than the Kings Arms and were rewarded with sour beer (grudgingly replaced) and a long wait for food that wasn't worth waiting for. The picnickers did better. In the afternoon grass mowing was under way in the Darent valley, keenly watched by a pair of red kites which occasionally swooped down on some freshly sliced unfortunate creature. The fleeting visitor popped up again in Ridlands Grove, then was gone.
Sat, 19-Nov-16 29

Saturday First Walk - Greensand hills and woodlands

SWC Walk 63 - Oxted Circular
12 miles / 19.25 km

This walk explores the woodlands of the Greensand hills. Lunch is at Westerham (a possible drop-out point) after 5.5 miles, so make sure you leave enough time to return to Oxted before darkness falls and the cakes sell out,

Trains: Take the 10:08 Uckfield train from London Bridge (10:23 East Croydon), arriving at Oxted at 10:37. Return trains are at xx19 to London Bridge, xx24/54 to London Victoria. Westerham has buses to Oxted and Bromley South.

Lunch: Westerham has many places to eat - three large and central pubs are the George & Dragon (01959-563071), the Kings Arms Hotel (01959-562990), the Grasshopper on the Green (01959-562926)

Tea: Pass through Oxted station to reach Café Papillon at 54 Station Road West, open til 5pm. Also on the same side and right next to the station is the Oxted Inn, a Wetherspoon's pub.

Click here for walk directions (pdf)

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29 on this walk including 2 late starters. Sunny until 3pm when it rained heavily. Gorgeous autumn colours full tint on beech, oak, Norway maple. All looked ready to be stripped in the next gale so I would not expect much foliage to be left by next week. Inevitably the best colour a heart stopping panorama of golden beech was just as the light started to fade and the rain started, so my photos did not work too well.

We split between three pubs in Westerham. The George and Dragon insisted on table service but were quick to take orders. A bit slow to produce it and the portions were a bit small for my appetite but the food was tasty. Lots of attention was needed to the directions in the afternoon but we all seemed to finish by dusk. The Papillon tea room must have been delighted or dismayed to get 17 late customers for tea and the pub entertained ten or so of us. The last of us got the 18.19 train and then rushed home to hot baths and Strictly.
Sun, 15-May-16 12

Sunday Walk 1: Greensand hills in Surrey & Kent

Extra Walk 63 Oxted Circular
Length: 19km (11.8 miles) Toughness: 5/10

09:53 East Grinstead train from Victoria (Clapham Junction 09:59; East Croydon 10:10), arriving at Oxted at 10:30.

Return trains are at xx:28 and xx:58, (journey time 41 minutes).

Much of this walk is on the wooded Greensand hills which run parallel to and just south of the North Downs. There is an option to extend the walk after lunch to pass Chartwell (NT), Winston Churchill’s home. This extends the walk to 13.4 miles.

There are numerous pubs and cafes for lunch in Westerham, which is reached after 5.5 miles, and several options for tea in Oxted.

The walk directions and map can be found on the Walk 63 page.
If you do the longer walk via Chartwell, note that the alternative route in §10b is no longer feasible. The National Trust have blocked the back exit from the grounds on this route, no doubt because people were using it to sneak into the grounds for free.

At Easter you could still enter the woodland at the back of the grounds (in §10a) but the way through to the Visitor Centre was blocked by work on a new overflow car park. That should be finished by now but there might be other complications. All things considered, it might be best to do the standard walk for now.

[I'm currently revising the walk to include these and other changes, but I doubt if an updated version will be ready by the weekend.]
Intend going. Is anyone interested in viewing either of the National Trust houses?
8 on the main walk sunshine with a cool breeze. 2 latecomers joined us at lunchtime and 2 others were seen at the Carpenters Arms later on when 3 of us stopped for tea and ice cream. Two groups of Book 2 walkers with USA accents were overheard on the train but did not alight at Otford so independent walking groups are making great use of the book rather than downloading from the internet an organised walk. 4 had lunch at the George in the garden and were served very swiftly but the other pubs and cafés were much busier and possibly better quality. In the afternoon 3 of us took a wrong turn in the final stretch of woods where the Greensand Way and the woodland paths diverge before Limpsfield and the busy B259. We couldn't keep up with the fast pace of the younger hung ho ladies but armed with an ordnance survey map and compass and SATNAV (recommended for all independent walkers) we sorted out the problem and revived our spirits at the excellent Carpenters Arms for tea. Recently refurbished the lunch food looked amazing and the place was still packed at 3.15pm. Perhaps Chris L could clarify the woodland directions in his revisions.

Trains were running bang on time and the 30 min service was a welcome change from some of the delays and cancellations experienced on previous outings.
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Sun, 21-Jun-15 18

Sunday 2nd Walk – the Greensand Hills and Chartwell

Extra Walk 63a Oxted Circular (long walk via Chartwell) T=3.63.a
21.5km (13.4m); toughness 7/10.
Train: London Victoria 09.53 (Clapham Junction 09.59, East Croydon 10.10) arrives Oxted 10.30
Return trains to London Victoria at xx:28 and xx:58

Much of this attractive and fairly strenuous walk is through the wooded Greensand Hills which are just to the south of the North Downs and where the countryside is owned by the National Trust and two large estates.
This long walk option enables you to visit Chartwell, the home of Winston Churchill and now owned by the National Trust.
Further information about the walk, various walk and refreshment options together with full walk instructions can be found here. Be sure to click on option a for the directions for the longer Chartwell walk.
Interested in doing this walk anyone else?
Yes, I am going also
I'm going too. I might start it earlier as I would like to visit Chartwell house. Anyone would like to join me?
Intend going, incl. Chartwell House, but with the advertised train.
18 solidly overcast turning to blue sky with passing clouds but no rain
Very good turnout then for the two Sunday walks combined.
All 18 walked the long version via Chartwell, although only 1 (I believe) actually visited the house, some doubtlessly put off the idea by the huge amount of people at Chartwell (both car park and cafe were full to bursting).
A good walk with a fair amount of far views and grand houses, and a good mixture of woods, meadows and waterways. Plenty of muddy patches in the woods, but it was always easy to skirt around them.
After an underwhelming reception at The George & Dragon upon our arrival just past noon ("Have you booked? Let me check with the kitchen, we are expecting 2 groups of 6 in the next 5 minutes..." when the pub was completely empty...), we were then served quickly what were vast portions of good value meals.
Some took the 16.58 train, while most had tea and/or drinks in Oxted's uninspiring town centre, and then another one, as the 17.28 was cancelled.
Dinner in Pimlico for some to celebrate a walker's b'day.
Sat, 30-Aug-14 25 Oxted Circular
Sat, 30-Aug-14 Oxted Circular (long walk, via Chartwell)
Sat, 09-Mar-13 20 Oxted Circular
Sat, 15-Sep-12 Oxted Circular
Sat, 19-May-12 Oxted Circular
Sun, 10-Apr-11 Oxted Circular
Sat, 10-Jul-10 Oxted Circular
Sun, 21-Mar-10 Oxted Circular
Sat, 13-Jun-09 Oxted Circular (long walk, via Chartwell)
Sun, 15-Mar-09 Oxted Circular