View towards Hawkley

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Hawkley

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Shoulder of Mutton Hill : view south

Petersfield to Liss

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Shoulder of Mutton Hill : view north

Petersfield to Liss

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Trees

Petersfield to Liss

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Hawkley church tower

Petersfield to Liss

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Tree

Petersfield to Liss

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Petersfield to Liss walk

Shoulder of Mutton Hill (steep, fine view) and a very walker friendly pub

History

This is a list of previous times this walk has been done by the club (since Jan 2010). For more recent events (since April 2015), full details are shown.

Date # Post
Sat, 10-Mar-18 7

Petersfield to Liss

CW2 11 Petersfield to Liss
Length: 16.2 km (10.1 miles).
Toughness: 5/10

Catch the 10:00 from London Waterloo arrives Petersfield 11:00. Buy a day return to Petersfield.

Return trains from Liss xx:02, 17:48, xx:02 until 23:02. T=2.11
Intend going.
Did this walk a few weeks back, the views from the top of the shoulder of mutton are wonderful, enjoy.
The excellent Hawkley Inn claimed to have no tables between 12.15 and 1.30 when I rang them yesterday. So an emergency snack should be packed and perhaps others might like to ring them again and see if there are any cancellations. Just a thought.
I'm not intending to go (please note the use of the infinitive here, rather than the gerund "intend going", which is not normal English usage)
Grammar has never been a strong point of mine, but one might argue that while "intend going" may not be grammatically correct, the it could be regarded as normal English usage ...
Hi, A few people have asked me if I started the great 'infinitive gerund' debate. Not guilty! Happy walking Kevin
7 on this walk. Most of us did the steep climb up to Shoulder of Mutton where we had Cloud rain mist sun. 6 had sandwiches in Lych gate of church. Lovely atmospheric walk through misty woods and huge swathes of wild garlic and moss making it all very green
Thu, 21-Sep-17 1

Along the Hangers Way in Hampshire, and down Shoulder of Mutton

Book 2 Walk 11 (r): Liss to Petersfield

Length: 16.2 km (10.1 miles)
Toughness: 5 out of 10


London Waterloo: 10-00 hrs Portsmouth Harbour service (does NOT stop at CJ)
Arrive Haslemere: 10-48 hrs
Leave Haslemere: 10-55 hrs Portsmouth and Southsea service
Arrive Liss: 11-06 hrs

Clapham Junctioners
Clapham Junction: 09-52 hrs Portsmouth and Southsea service (which left Waterloo at 09-45 hrs)
Arrive Liss: 11-06 hrs

Return: Petersfield to Waterloo: 10, 18, 48 and 57 mins past rhe hour

Rail ticket: buy a day return to Petersfield


A fellow walk poster suggested I post this Book 2 walk in reverse, as there is more going on in Petersfield than in Liss at walk-end. I have done this walk backwards once before, and I recall it does work the wrong way round. Backwards, you get the plethora of stiles out of the way in the morning and later you descend the steep Shoulder of Mutton hill rather than climb it.
Much of the walk is along the Hangers Way long distance path (muddy in winter) but hopefully fine today. Lunch is taken at the usually good Hawkley Inn, some 10 km from Liss - so no dawdling today if you want a pub lunch. Booking ahead is advisable (01730-827205) and to check the pub is open - it's up for sale.
On arriving in Petersfield I leave it to you to explore the town and discover its fleshpots, or for the less hedonistic amongst you, suitable stops for tea.
T=2.11
Walk Directions here L=2.11

Tips on "Walking Backwards" here
Would the poster kindly correct the train info.
Train info correct per my railway website
I'm away this week so I hope our mid week walkers work out how to follow a walk "backwards" it's not too difficult.
Shame no one turned up for this walk, particularly as it had been requested and backwards for today.
0 then?

But on a philosophical note, how do you know that no one turned up? If there was someone there to observe that no one was there, then someone did turn up.....
In answer to Marcus and Walker, actually I did part of the walk that day. Unfortunately I managed to miss the 10.00am train by a few seconds, so caught the next one to Petersfield (non stopping at Liss). From here, knowing the forecast was rain, I decided to shorten the walk and caught the bus up to Selborne. Had a cup of tea in the Gilbert White's House cafe (free admission), then climbed Selborne Common hill via the zig zag path. At this point the light persistent rain set in, but I was not downhearted. The Hangars Way sustained me as it was very beautiful all the way back to Petersfield. A little muddy in places with some slippery stiles, but quiet and picturesque, with mist draping over the wooded hills. thanks for posting Marcus. E.D.
1 wet
Sun, 04-Jun-17 5

Petersfield to Liss

Petersfield to Liss Book 2, Walk 11.
17.2 km 11 miles (7 miles with shortcut)
Toughness 7/10

This walk takes you along the Hangers Way through unspoilt Hampshire countryside. There is a steep climb up Shoulder of Mutton Hill - with good views back - but you can take a longer gentler route up if you prefer. Later, there are good views down the other side, as is often the case with hills.
Trains: Get the 09:30 Havant train from Waterloo (Clapham Jct. 09:39) arriving Petersfield 10:39.
Trains return from Liss at xx:29. Get a return to Petersfield
Lunch: The walker-friendly Hawkley Inn in Hawkley (01730 827205) Phoning advised.
Tea: There are several tea places in Liss. Some are said to be open on Sundays - check out the High Street.
The Whistlestop pub, just past the station, will be open. It has been fairly friendly in the past.
An earlier option, the Spreadeagle is only slightly off the walk route, on the road into Liss from the cemetery (Farnham Road), near the junction with Hawkley Road).
Directions: available here or in book 2.
Note that the short walk option in the directions (option a) has no lunch stop. The detour described is not a right of way.
This suggestion, from the comments page, would shorten the main walk's afternoon and reduce the total length to 7 miles. It isn't included in the walk text.
  • "Leave the Hawkley Inn and turn left onto the road instead of right, heading east. In 250m go straight across a T-junction and take the fenced footpath opposite between fields. In 350m turn right onto a lane, rejoining the main walk between [8] & [9], just after you would have passed a house called Uplands. Pick up the book directions at "In 200m you go steeply downhill..."
T=2.11

Hi, Where are can I meet you?
Thanks
We usually congregate on the platform after we get off the train. You may spot some walkers on the train. Recognisable by their boots. If they're carrying our directions, they're most likely on our walk.


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4 got off the train at Petersfield; one waited for a friend leaving three to complete the main walk in sunny weather. Lots of wild flowers e.g. orchids and scarlet pimpernel on Shoulder of Mutton hill. I can't report on the refreshment options I'm afraid, as the front group had a picnic lunch and two of us made a bolt for the train at Liss having got there with 2 minutes to spare.
Yes, plus one = 5 on walk. Saw Orchids. Diverted to the Harrow at Steep (one of the top national inventory pubs, ie unchanged since time began, in the land), as well as the Hawkley and the Spread Eagle which I also recommend Gavin
5
Sat, 08-Oct-16 21

Saturday First Walk - The Hampshire Hangars

Book 2, walk 11 - Petersfield to Liss or Alton
Length: 16.2 km (10.1 miles) or 23.9km (14.8 miles)
Toughness: 5 out of 10

9.30 train from Waterloo to Petersfield, arriving 10.31

(From Clapham Junction you can take the 9.27 to Woking, arriving 9.45, to catch the above train at 9.55)

Buy a day return to Petersfield.

For walk directions (main walk to Liss) click here. For the extension, see below.

I thought it would be nice to do this fine Hampshire outing before winter mud makes it too slithery. The morning is a tour-de-force, taking you out of Petersfield and up a stunningly steep path onto Shoulder of Mutton Hill (there is a gentler way up also), with correspondingly fine views from the top. You then descend into lovely hilly/wooded territory. Lunch is in the Hawkley Inn, which serves food till 2.30pm.

After lunch the 16.2km (10.1 mile) version of the walk is to simply stick with the book two route to Liss, from where trains go back at 02 past the hour, with one mysterious extra train at 17.48. If you just miss an 02 past train it is theoretically possible to take the 06 in the other direction, changing to the opposite platform at Petersfield for a fast train to London.

Or do the extension to Alton: see below

EXTENSION TO ALTON

This is a long walk (23.9km/14.8 miles) but may tempt the more red-blooded among you looking to make the most of the daylight before the short days come.

It makes use of directions found in this document, which link the Walk 11 route with Selborne, the lunch stop on Book 2, walk 10, Alton Circular, essentially keeping along the Hangar's Way after lunch in Hawkley - a very pretty route, taking in Noar Hill and some lovely countryside.

It is 6.4 km (4 miles) from Hawkley to Selborne and once upon a time you could catch a bus there back to Petersfield. But alas, this bus no longer runs on Saturdays, so you have to continue on foot another 6 miles or so to Alton. It is thus 10 miles from Hawkley to Alton if you do this option

To get from Selborne to Alton either follow the book 2 walk 10 route in this document from paragraph 61 (turning left off the road just before the Selborne Arms, since you are coming from the opposite direction), or - nicer but requiring a map or the ability to read walk directions backwards - reverse the morning route of that walk, which also follows the Hangar's Way.

Tea options en route are plentiful and include the pleasant Selborne Arms (though not the Queen's Arms, which is now closed), the tea room in the nearby Gilbert White Museum (which can be visited without paying the entrance fee, if you ask nicely), and possibly the Coffee Room cafe between the two (if it is still there). If you follow the afternoon route of the Alton walk, the Rose and Crown in Upper Farringdon is also a tea/drink option along with the Greyfriar Inn in Chawton. And incidentally if light is fading you can do the whole rest of the walk from the Greyfriar in the dark as it is all on residential or town centre roads.

Note that if you do this option, you will have to buy an extra single train ticket from Alton to Woking, which is £6.80 with a Network Card. Trains leave Alton at 15 and 44 past.


21 managed to disentangle themselves from the Guildford walkers who were also on the same train (whoops my posting error!) and set off for a lusty climb of the superb Shoulder of Mutton Hill, the Matterhorn of the Saturday Walks. Arriving at Hawkley we found the lunch pub much changed from its former rough and ready days smartly laid out tables and "have you booked?" We had not, but they accommodated us without demur and portions were big.

After lunch there was the first of a couple of showers on an otherwise mild and cloudy day. Soon after, the parting of the ways: ten of us set off through a field of horses to do the longer walk to Alton: that presumably means eleven carried on to Liss.

We Altonians had a very nice walk to Selborne this really is a pretty section and there split between the pub and the lovely tea room in the Gilbert White Museum for mid afternoon "refreshies". We then opted to reverse the morning of the Alton walk lovely territory at least as far as East Worldham and interesting to see it from the opposite direction. We arrived in Alton exactly as dusk was falling and didn't feel tired, not one tiny bit.

Most of us squeezed into the Railway Inn where we had an education from one of our party in inventively named real ales. Six of us got the ? 7.44 ? train and had wine and dips to while away the journey. (I mention this because one of our number said "You never mention the party we have on the train home." So there: I mentioned it)
Wed, 06-Apr-16 9

Midweek day walk - Petersfield to Liss

Petersfield to Liss - a slightly challenging ascent onto the Hangers Way

Stunning views (weather permitting), the Hangers Way and a nice pub with real ale and good food.

Book 2 Walk 11

Length : 16½ km or 10½ miles

Toughness : 5 out of 10

Getting there : Catch the 10:00 am train from London Waterloo (Woking 10:25 am) to Portsmouth Harbour.
Clapham Junctioneers should catch the 9:52 Portsmouth Harbour & Southsea train from that station and change at Woking to join the Waterlusians train at 10:25. At the time of writing, both trains are advertised to use platform 5 at Woking

Meeting point : Petersfield Station at 11:00 am

Tickets : Buy a £15 South West Trains Promotion Ticket before midnight on the day prior to the walk (Thank you for pointing that out Thomas) or a cheap day return to Petersfield on the day.

Brief Description

An ever popular walk where the Hangers is designated as an area of outstanding natural beauty. Walkers normally take a breather at Edward Thomas's Memorial Stone towards the top of the Shoulder of Mutton hill. If the visiblity is good, the vista to the south is well worth a good look there.
There is a short cut immediately after the lunch venue, cutting 5½ km of the walk should you wish.
You may find full details of the walk here and a downloadable PDF here

Suggested Lunch stop

Suggested Tea stop

Whistle Stop, Liss t: 01730 890464 (150 metres past the station at the road junction)

Map

OS Explorer : OL33 (was Explorer 133)

Return train times

Trains return from Liss at the following times 15:02 | 16:02 | 16:23 | 17:02 | 17:23 | 18:02

The SWT £15 Promo for off peak day returns is still running (book b4 midnight the day b4). Valid on any W'loo departure from 09.00 onwards, on this line...earlier start ?

I'm planning to go on this walk tomorrow, but i wouldn't like to be in my own :) Is anyone else going ?
Intend going at posted time large table (table 10) booked in bar for a minimum of 8 peeps......at 1 pm
Intend going on 10:00am train and have booked a promo ticket today
Mike
9 on this walk with weather overcast in the morning a shower during lunch and a brighter afternoon
Quite a cold day and a fair amount of mud, but superb food at the Hawkley Arms.
Four curious sheep in the afternoon
Wed, 12-Aug-15 12

Midweek day walk - Petersfield to Liss

Petersfield to Liss

Shoulder of Mutton Hill (steep, but fine views) and the Hawkley Inn. a very walker friendly pub

Book 2 Walk 11

Length : 17 km or 10.5 miles

Toughness : 5 out of 10

Getting there : Catch the 10:30 am train from London Waterloo to Petersfield.
Clapham Junctioneers should catch the 10:27 to Woking and change there (currently platform 4 to 5) to catch the 10:55 and join the Waterlusians for the remainder of the journey

Meeting point : Petersfield Station at 11:31

Tickets : Buy a cheap day return to Petersfield

Brief Description

Get a cardiac workout on the Shoulder of Mutton hill and check out the wonderful views at the top (weather permitting). Look out for the Memorial Stone dedicated to the Poet Edward Thomas towards the top of the hill.
(A ditty by him also appears at Adlestrop on the walk from Kingham to Moreton-in-Marsh)

You may find full details of this walk here and a downloadable PDF here

Suggested Lunch stop

Hawkley Inn (tel 01730 827205),

Suggested Tea stops

Maps

OS Explorer : OS33 (mobile digital download available)

Return train times

Trains return from Liss to London, Waterloo at the following times ...
:02 minutes past the hour - journey time 1 hour 12 mins
:23 minutes past the hour - journey time 1 hour 20 mins
A great walk with a nice lunchtime pub where the long table in the bar awaits us. Don't worry about the hill, you can go round it. Also short cut after lunch for those who over indulge.
Intend coming and would prefer to avoid the hill!
12 and 1 early bird on this walk. Light cloud and quite humid with an occasional welcome breeze.
All twelve went for the direct ascent at the Shoulder of Mutton and were rewarded with great views. The group arrived a little late at the Hawkley Inn, but most agreed the food and drink was good.
Three groups in the afternoon, two with sandwiches set off early, followed by the hares, then those who weren't in such a hurry to get back.
Sun, 15-Mar-15 5 Petersfield to Liss
Sat, 18-Oct-14 12 Petersfield to Liss
Sun, 12-Jan-14 6 Petersfield (short circular walk)
Sat, 22-Jun-13 15 Petersfield to Selborne
Sat, 22-Jun-13 Petersfield to Alton
Sun, 09-Jun-13 12 Petersfield to Liss
Wed, 03-Apr-13 Petersfield to Liss
Sun, 16-Dec-12 Petersfield to Liss, via Hawkley short cut
Sat, 26-May-12 Petersfield to Liss
Sun, 02-Oct-11 Liss to Petersfield
Sat, 09-Apr-11 Petersfield to Liss
Sun, 26-Sep-10 Petersfield to Liss
Sun, 15-Nov-09 Petersfield to Liss
Sat, 10-Oct-09 Petersfield to Liss
Sun, 14-Jun-09 Petersfield to Liss
Sat, 07-Mar-09 Petersfield to Liss
Sat, 16-Aug-08 Petersfield to Liss
Sun, 04-May-08 Petersfield to Liss
Sat, 01-Dec-07 Petersfield to Liss
Sun, 27-May-07 Petersfield to Liss