Copper Ferns (Eridge Circular)

29-Nov-14 • anon_e on Flickr

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Wood anemones at Harrison Rocks

Eridge Circular walk

13-Apr-16 • Saturdaywalker on Flickr

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Harrison Rocks climber

Eridge Circular walk

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Tree and hedges

Eridge Short Circular out via Harrisons Rocks

17-Dec-11 • moontiger on Flickr

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between hedges

Eridge Short Circular out via Harrisons Rocks

17-Dec-11 • moontiger on Flickr

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Harrisons Rocks

Eridge Short Circular out via Harrisons Rocks

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Redwood , Groombridge Place

Eridge Short Circular out via Harrisons Rocks

17-Dec-11 • moontiger on Flickr

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Eridge Circular walk

A short walk through an interesting part of the High Weald.

History

This is a list of previous times this walk has been done by the club (since Jan 2010). For more recent events (since April 2015), full details are shown.

Date # Post
Sat, 03-Mar-18 12

Saturday walk - Eridge Circular - a short walk through an interesting part of the Weald

Length: 15km (9.3 miles)
Toughness: 4 out of 10

10.23 train from East Croydon to Eridge, arriving 11.03.

Suggested connecting train from Central London: 9.53 train from Victoria (9.59 Clapham Junction), arriving East Croydon 10.10

For walk directions click here. For GPX click here

I realise that with the snow forecast for Thursday and Friday it is touch and go if this walk will be possible. Much depends on the trains. I am tempted to change it for something closer to London but am aware that some adventurers may relish the prospect of a snow walk. So I will leave it up, but suggest that those setting out for it also bring directions for the Riddlesdown to Coulsdon South walk (book 2 walk 15) as a close-to-London back-up in case the Eridge train is not running. You could liaise with other walkers at the footbridge on platform 1 at East Croydon at 10.20.

If the train does run, this walk will provide an interesting and varied snowy winter outing in lovely quiet countryside that is actually not at all far from civilisation (Tunbridge Wells). The Uckfield line, being one of the very few in the south east to be diesel operated, should also be less vulnerable - famous last words - to disruption (no third rails to ice up etc).

Lunch is in either the Junction Inn (offering Malaysian food last time I looked) or the Crown Inn in Groombridge - both worthy pubs. Tea is in the delightfully remote Huntsman pub just next to Eridge station.

In the afternoon a short cut ending is possible which goes past Harrison Rocks - very fine scenery in its own right. Another alternative is to follow sections 13 and 14 of the Tunbridge Wells Circular walk into Tunbridge Wells, a distance of 6km (3.7 miles). You will probably need to buy another train ticket from Tunbridge Wells back to London, however.

Trains back from Eridge are at 20 past the hour. In the event of train problems, note that the station is just down the slip road from a big A road. A bus stop on the same side of this road has buses to Tunbridge Wells. T=3.120


I have been using Southern and SE trains most of the week and things have been quite good overall. This would be a good walk in the snow!
There are now 2 footbridges at East Croydon. If the 10.23 train to Eridge is not running, I suggest meeting on the main entrance footbridge on platform 1 (up the ramp)
No, not the ramp, the footbridge the new one, halfway down the platform. A footbridge is a footbridge and a ramp is a ramp. I meant the footbridge.

Thinking about it, if the Eridge train is not running (it was running on Friday), then a good alternative would be either Oxted or East Grinstead (eg the short circular): both have the advantage that they start and finish in civilisation while taking in good rural places in between. A day return to Eridge would be valid to Oxted and would be accepted from East Grinstead in the circumstances, I am sure. I am sure we will manage to find somewhere to walk.....cross fingers.
What a change from Friday! Arctic conditions in full retreat, quite a bit of sun, low single digit temperatures feeling positively balmy, flowers out again, birds singing once more....

The trains operated without a hitch. The Uckfield Line diesel was sat at East Croydon from before 10am, happily puffing out particulates, so we did not even have to wait for the connection in the cold. The sun came out as we headed south a nice surprise. 12 set out. Or was it 13? We met one SWC regular halfway round going in the opposite direction. Was he there at the start?

As soon as we got going, it was clear the snow was melting fast, but there was still a fair amount left. Some tricky navigation around pipeline works at one point, but otherwise a fine morning’s walk. Eight of us squeezed into a cosy sunny nook at the Crown (some non SWC customers were even sat outside, which was tempting...). What a lovely pub this is: friendly, now with a whole gluten free menu, bless them, and a vegan nut roast. One could have sat there all afternoon.

More cloud in the afternoon, and as the snow melted, more slush and standing water and mud. Various routes across Broadwater Forest seemed to be taken. Towards the end of the walk there was more sun and then dark clouds approaching but the rain very politely held off until we were in the Huntsman. Another lovely pub! Tea served cheerfully in huge pots. A blazing fire to sit by. Most stayed only until the 4.50 train, but two of us found the warmth of burning biomass too irresistible after the last week’s weather and stayed for the 5.50, spending the hour resolving Brexit and other pressing global issues.
Sat, 09-Sep-17 32

Eridge Circular with optional extension

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Length: 15 km / 9.5 m or 18 km / 11 m
Toughness: 4 / 10
Transport: Take the 10:08 from London Bridge, arriving in Eridge at 11:03. Trains back from Eridge at xx:50.

From the description:

The morning section is an undulating route across typical High Weald territory, starting with a slightly longer route to Mottsmill Stream than that in Extra Walk 109 (Eridge to East Grinstead). You can then choose between a high-level open route with fine views, or a lower route through a secluded valley with good displays of bluebells and other spring flowers. Both routes combine on the approach to Groombridge, one of many rural villages which developed around its railway station. The original hamlet (now called Old Groombridge) is just across the county border, in Kent.
The afternoon section starts by going past Groombridge Place, a beautiful Jacobean manor house surrounded by a medieval moat. You then follow the railway line a short distance up the Grom valley before turning into Broadwater Forest. Much of this area was acquired by the RSPB in 2007 and is now the Broadwater Warren nature reserve (free entry). The southern end of the wood is also a nature reserve (managed by the Sussex Wildlife Trust) and the Main Walk goes past one of the massive sandstone outcrops in the area, Eridge Rocks.

You can extend the walk either from Eridge by walking back to Groombridge along the alternative path passing Harrison's Rocks or leaving the official route earlier to cut across to Harrison's Rocks and then to Groombridge. From Groombridge you can then take the steam train either to Eridge (17:06) or to Tunbridge Wells (17:36). Should it get very late there is also a bus at 18:46 to Tunbridge Wells.

Last but not least posting walk numbers here. 32, 30 at the start and with 2 arriving later. It has a number that was more than two other walks combined. Just to show there is great demand for a walk with <13miles when two others are 13 miles plus. Thanks for posting this lovely walk.
I have some sympathy for the above thought. The club is divided. We have a group champion for ever longer and tougher walks whilst another group finding harder and harder to identify themselves with the club for lack of what used to be a normal walk (10 12miles). I appreciate all walker posters' hard work for adding varieties to the club, Let's keep it in good balance.
Just to add dry and sunny no rain until on the train home
Three of the five walks posted for next weekend are under twelve miles. Numbers attending the Saturday walks often split more towards one walk than the other two, but predicting which will be the favoured one is not easy. But overall there is a pretty good balance between the three Saturday ones. Length is just one of many factors posters think of when choosing walks weather, time of year, a balance of starting stations, giving all the walks an airing from time to time, and offering walks on different types of terrain being some of the others.
My tuppence worth:
No one doubts that there is demand for short walks;
that is why every weekend (incl.this one) the majority of walks are short or have attractive short options (but, yes: short options of long ish walks afford people to actually live the SWC 'philosophy' and follow the written directions, which seems to be too much effort for many people);
Walker posted a walk this Saturday that had just had two other outings (within the last 6 months), presumably pushing some of his regulars onto the Eridge walk;
and I posted the 3rd Pulborough walk in as many weeks (a consequence of the research needed for the new walk I posted).
So, ideal conditions for a SE of London short walk, but hardly a typical weekend.
For some people, the reason to come to group walks is to enjoy others company (not too lazy to read the instruction). Some short cuts at the end of a walk are fine but others earlier in the walk defeat the purpose of coming to group walks.
Lazy or not...

If in this day and age of mobile phones, emails, blogs and so called social media, concerned people can't organise amongst themselves to have a sub group on a long walk that together walks a clearly described and publicly posted shorter option on a long walk (i.e.: one reads and leads, the rest chat and follow);
or if those same people can't be bothered to cross the river to go on a short walk north of the Thames, or on a Sunday;
then that tells me that the problem can't be that pressing.

p.s.: I haven't noticed a drop in attendance numbers over the weekends since the supposed 'divide' in the group, maybe Anonymous can provide the hard data that suggests the SWC is in crisis?
p.p.s.: as I said above, every weekend the majority of walks are short or with clearly outlined and fully written up short options, so where is the 'lack of balance'?
p.p.p.s.: this is the SWC website, not ramblers.org.uk, so there shouldn't be an expectation to be led on walks
That will make posting walks each week redundant if everyone starts to use social media to organise walks themselves, right?
I'm talking about going on the posted short option of a group walk. put a comment on the blog that you want to walk the short walk, preferably with a name that people recognise rather than as Anonymous, and ask whether other people would like to join. that's how other people do it.
"For some people, the reason to come to group walks is to enjoy others company (not too lazy to read the instruction). Some short cuts at the end of a walk are fine but others earlier in the walk defeat the purpose of coming to group walks."

totally agree with this statement
"For some people, the reason to come to group walks is to enjoy others company...'

For some people, the reason to come to group walks is to enjoy the walk in reasonable solitude, but meet the group at the end for refreshments.
For some people, the reason to come to group walks is to keep others in sight for a sense of security, but not talk to them if at all possible.
For some people, the reason to come to group walks is to get out into the countryside, but not worry about navigation, just follow the group.

For some people, the only type of walk there should be, is the type of walk they favour.
solitude and totally silent walkers are a minority of the group, I'd say less than 10%. We used to have a silent walking group, even them could not resist the temptation of chitchat so they broke silent at lunch time. Let's face it, human beings are social animals, the very fact that 'solitude' and 'total silent' walkers come to the group walks just proves the point. Let's hope this group will not turn into a bunch of loners who could not see eye to eye.
very off putting to scan the weekend walks and automatically exclude certain walks that would otherwise be lovely were it not for their grand mileage. Plus who wants to arrange a short version where one might be forced to walk alone because no one else is doing it ?!!

well...don't automatically exclude certain walks based on their mileage then. simples!
Eh?.😐nil points,re read the comment mate
Frankie

If the group wants to expand and attract some younger walkers then a longer option may be important. I know of some newcomers who are very keen to have the longer challenge and are very talkative while walking
Sun, 02-Apr-17 15

Sunday Walk – Steam trains in the High Weald

Extra Walk 120 – Eridge Circular
Length: 15 km (9.3 miles). Toughness: 4/10

09:53 East Grinstead train from Victoria (Clapham Jct 09:59), changing at East Croydon (arr 10:09, dep 10:15) for the Uckfield train (usually from the same Platform 6), arriving Eridge at 11:03.

Better still, take the first fast train to East Croydon when you get to Victoria or CJ – Sunday trains are always prone to delays. If you do miss the connection you'll have to take the next East Grinstead train and change at Oxted. You'll be starting an hour late but if you do the shorter outward route you'll only be 20-30 minutes behind the main group at lunchtime.

Trains back from Eridge are hourly at 50 minutes past and go to Oxted, where you change for Victoria.

The long-running industrial dispute on Southern trains still isn't resolved but I'll take a chance on this High Weald walk in their territory. You should get to see (and hear) steam trains on the Spa Valley Railway at Eridge station and also at the lunchtime village of Groombridge, where Groombridge Place always puts on a good show of daffodils and other spring flowers. The afternoon is across the RSPB's Broadwater Warren reserve and past the imposing Eridge Rocks (or you could take the shorter return route via the even more impressive Harrison's Rocks). At the end of the walk you can unwind in the Huntsman pub, a stone's throw from Eridge station.

You'll need to print the directions from the Eridge Circular Walk page. T=swc.120
15 on this walk on a perfect spring day, sunny and warm some cloud in the afternoon. Two excellent pubs and various spring flowers on display. The Broadwater Warren section is a tad disappointing because of mnajor woodland clearance which has obviously disrupted the wild life although there should be some good displays of heather in the late summer.
We timed the walk perfectly to just miss the 3.50 train thereby forcing the group to have a final drink at the Huntsman whilst waiting for the one an hour later. A lovely day out
Wed, 13-Apr-16

Midweek Day Walk - Eridge Circular

Eridge Circular

A short walk through an interesting part of the High Weald

Book 3* Walk 120

* Online only
Length : 15 km or 9½ miles

Toughness : 4 out of 10

Getting there : Catch the 10:08 am train from London Bridge to Eridge
(Departs from East Croydon at 10:23)

Meeting point : Eridge Station at 11:03

Tickets : Buy a cheap day return to Eridge

Brief Description

A newish walk in the delightful Kent/East Sussex countryside You may find full details here

Suggested Lunch stops

Crown Inn, Old Groombridge t: 01892 864742
Junction Inn, Groombridge t: 01892864275 (apparently in the process of changing ownership)

Suggested Tea stop

The Huntsman Pub t: 01892 864258 a fairly hefty stones throw from the station. Very friendly country pub, serves beer, nibbles and tea all in nice surroundings

Map

OS Explorer : 135

Return train times

Trains return from Eridge to London at the following times ... 15:50 | 16:50 | 17:20* | 17:48 | 18:20* | 18:49

* To London Victoria changing at Hurst Green
All trains stop at East Croydon, so you may choose to change there and catch a train to your preferred destination station.
A very lovely walk with fabulous wildflowers
including bluebells out in profusion.
about 16 on walk. jfk
Sat, 29-Nov-14 32 Eridge Circular
Sun, 15-Dec-13 7 Eridge Circular
Sat, 08-Dec-12 Eridge Circular
Sat, 31-Mar-12 Eridge Circular
Sat, 17-Dec-11 Eridge Circular, with shorter morning
Sun, 30-Oct-11 Eridge Circular
Sun, 05-Jun-11 Eridge Circular